198 How To Optimize Happy, Healthy and Successful In Your Life Through Kundalini Yoga With Kara Nicole Bitar

That's why today we have an optimization coach and yoga teacher with us. Her name is Kara Nicole Bitar.

But she comes from a background as of a, of a in the legal world as a as a lawyer, and where she

was involved with the corporate world. And she made some decisions to change the things in her

life, and now is involved with helping you to optimize your life and with yoga. Kara, welcome to

Beyond adversity.

Well, thank you so much for having me. I'm so happy to be here.

You, it is a pleasure to have you with us today here on Beyond adversity. And the way we like to

talk about things here Kara is we really like to hear, we know you have a lot to offer to other folks

through your coaching and through your teaching and through being an advocate for yoga. But

we know that there is a almost everybody has a story to tell about something that caused them to

make some pivots in their life. So tell us a bit about where you were in life. And not too long ago,

when you decided to make a pivot? What kind of situation did you find yourself in? And what kind

of adversity did you face?

Yeah, so I was, as you said, Before, I was a corporate litigator, I worked for one of the largest law

firms in the southeast. And just to give a little bit more background. So since I was in probably fifth

grade, I planned on becoming an attorney. This was Michael and I worked very hard to this end, I

graduated highest honors in high school. And then I graduated summa cum laude from college.

And then I went on to Duke law on a scholarship and I published while I was at Duke, I also

published as a when I was an undergrad in college. And then I was recruited by and I went on to

work for, again, what I said one of the largest law firms in the southeast doing corporate litigation.

And in addition to the litigation work that I did for our clients, I also did a lot of pro bono work for

victims of domestic violence. And I was eventually named the head of that pro bono project at our

firm, which was a relatively large project. And so I'm in this job. And on paper, my life looked

perfect. It looked like I had everything that I had worked for, everything that for. And on top of

that, it was like I had this kind of like prestigious job, I was making a lot of money. And I was, I felt

very respected and appreciated by my colleagues. And I was doing legal work that would be

considered significant legal work. And I also had, like the beautiful house in the city and the

beautiful wardrobe. And you know, when I had time, I got to go on nice vacations. And so, you

know, my life really did look perfect. But despite this, I was, I would say, deeply unhappy. deeply

unhappy to the point that it was just like, I really did hope I didn't wake up in the morning. And it

was like, it was such a confusing thing for me. Because I had everything that I thought I wanted. I

had everything that I had worked so hard for I had everything that I had planned for. I had

everything that I had been told, were the things that were going to like, make you happy, were

going to fulfill you. And so it was confusing for me, like how can I have all of these things like I

should be happy, I should feel good about my life. I should feel good about myself. But I didn't.

So you had this big tension between the outer appearances, corporate ladder and so on so forth,

and your career going well, but the inner life was messed up. Is that fair?

Yeah, that's fair. I mean, it was like on the outside, I think I looked to like I had it all together. And I

think people would have been surprised to know and I think people weren't, quite frankly

surprised, because I did end up leaving this job. They would have been surprised that I was so

unhappy that I was so unfilled, unfulfilled, and it was just like, I had all of this stuff, but there was

this part of me that was like, this is all that life is it felt so it felt empty to me. And it felt

meaningless, even though I was doing this work that was, you know, significant. And even though

like with the work with the victims of domestic violence, they were so appreciative of what I did,

but it was like, you know, they'd be appreciative of what I did, or like, we'd win a big case and I'd

have this like, moment of like, Oh, that felt good, but then it just you know, that The vast, back to

the back to the grind. It was just like, but that was just this a momentary and it was just like, well,

you know, is this what life is you have these these moments of joy maybe when something like

that happens or maybe when you go on vacation? But that's it, you know? And like, is that all that

life is? And so I just it was confusing to me. And I kept trying to make it work. Like I kept trying to

make myself happy in this job, I kept trying to make myself feel good. And you know, there was

this part of me that was like, well, once you make partner, then like, then you'll be happy, you

know, but, you know, the thing was, is I saw my, my colleagues make partner and their lives didn't

really seem to change that much. And also, too, I had done that too many times. Like, I didn't

really like law school that Well, I didn't really like college that well. But it was just like, it was just

there was this constant like, but it's okay. Because once I get to that thing, then I mean, like, once I

get that job, once I become that attorney, then then I'll be happy, then I'll be fulfilled, then I'll feel

like I have a sense of like, worth and value. And when that didn't happen. It was just like I Yeah, it

was like I was to the point where I was like, I don't think this next thing of making partner, that's

not going to be the answer.

So like, you also seem to think that you noticed you became a notice or of what other people were

experiencing, which was, you just helped me out here, tell me if I'm wrong affirm, right, that other

people were not nearly as quite as fulfilled in what they were doing as you thought maybe they

would be or where you might end up going be a partner, for instance, they weren't quite as

fulfilled, either. And therefore, you know, kind of case for us, or is that is that all there is here? You

know? And am I right at all that you saw evidence and others about this,

where you did? Guess you're correct, I saw evidence and others, I didn't see it in everybody. Now

there were some people who really thrived in that job and who felt I think you felt very fulfilled by

the life they were living. And I, I always want few people, because I felt so good around them. But

it was so interesting to me to like I saw in others though, it was like, we set this really high bar for

ourselves of like the degrees that we were going to have, do you know what I mean? That's the

kind of that that kind of success that we're gonna have. But then I felt like we set this really low

bar for ourselves in terms of how we actually felt. So for instance, when I was speaking with one of

my colleagues, I mean, this was an individual who went to Harvard. I mean, he was highly

educated, he had worked for a big law firm in New York City. So just really kind of top notch, top

of his game, really, in terms of like, being a lawyer. And I remember talking to him, and I just said,

so are you. Like, are you excited to get up in the morning? Like, do you feel energized by life? Do

you feel like passionate about what you're doing? And he was just like, No, it's like, but, but this is

what life is. Yeah. And we haven't good because we make a lot of a good job. And so so now I'm

not really I'm not really excited by life, I can't wait to get a break. I can't wait to go on vacation.

But like this is just just kind of accept it. Like this is just what life is. And that's just like that, that

just like it's like sucks the life out of me. Like, no, there has to be more,

let's talk about that has to be more because a lot of people have that point of kind of

understanding, hey, I'm not really happy, or I'm miserable. But this is the way it is, you know, I

gotta suck it up is what I hear people say sometimes, especially from my generation, you know,

just suck it up and get after it. This is what you got to do. And yet for you, it became not enough.

And I think there's a you know, a lot of folks in this era, last couple of years of COVID or, you know,

the great resignation, you probably have heard that term people leaving whatever they were

doing, it was not satisfying in order to do something else. But, you know, apparently you've had

this moment, there must have been a moment somewhere, Cara, where you said, okay, you know,

this is not going to do I must make a change. So tell me about that moment, or that series of

moments?

Yeah, I think it was a series of moments. It was like, I just I kept staying in that job. And I kept just

getting more and more unhappy. Like I'd go home at night and just like, go for a walk in the dark

by myself and just be like, oh my goodness, like is this this can't be life. Right? You know, come

home at night, like lay on the floor and cry, but I knew I knew at a certain point that didn't do any

good. Yeah, I mean, so it was actually a series of moments and the thing was it that job, but it

really took me a while. So I really kind of kept myself in a state of unhappiness, trying to make this

work just like no, this has to work. And also Ted worked my whole life for it. So it's just like, part of

me is just like, No, I should be happy. And also, I've worked my whole life for this, like this should,

this needs to work out for me. And so I had a lot of moments where I just, I felt like something had

had to change. But then it was like, it was a conflict, there was this, I didn't have this great mental

clarity that, you know, because then part of me was like, Well, what's gonna change I have

everything changed. I mean, and if I leave this on, then I'll have nothing. And so

you got to take a leap of faith into the great unknown, which includes uncertainty. Whatever is

next is not very, very certain. But you did it, you did it. So tell me about the actual transition point,

tell me about when you actually went into tell whoever the you know, the head of your firm or

whatever it would be that okay, this is it. And then you also had to share this news with other

people in your life, family or friends, colleagues, whatever, there's got to be some tension, there's

got to be some momentary get let's, let's go there, Kara, you know what I'm talking about.

So I finally made the decision that I was going to leave that job. And like I said, it took me years to

get up the courage to do this. And I remember sitting in my office thinking, like, because I had

made a meeting with the partner that I was supposed to talk to. And I was just thinking, like, I

can't do this. And I remember, I remember like walking down the hall, if it felt out of body, like, This

is the craziest thing I've ever done in my life. And here's the thing, too, this is what made it I think,

really challenging for me. And this is something that I did, I don't know if anyone at that firm has

ever done this, which is what I decided to do was just to leave without any sort of plan as to what I

would do next. So working at a big firm like that, having the resume that I had, if I wanted another

job, the firm would have helped me get one, because they're so well connected. You know, if I

wanted another job, I could have gotten one just even without their help based on my resume. But

there was this part of me that was like, if I do that, it's going to be different faces different places,

but I'm going to feel the same. Yeah, so

just kind of movie location or moving circles. Yeah, but not actual, changing the what needs to be

changed, which had to do with how you felt because you mentioned earlier how you were at the

end of your rope, you know, you were Bill desperate, you even mentioned some things about how

you just felt you know, meaning less pneus in your life. So what do you do, then? What was what

happened in so what did you start? When did you start to transition from this leap of faith here to

something else?

Right, so I left my job. And then after I left my job, so again, I wasn't like this confused state. It's

not like I had this great mental clarity, like part of me was like, if I leave my job, oh, my goodness,

I'm not gonna know what to do. I'm not gonna have anything to do. And then there was other part

of me, that's like, give me two weeks away from this high stress, high pressure job, you know, and

I'll figure something out. So what ended up happening was after I left that job, it was like, this, the

stress and the adrenaline kind of like this that went away. And it was like I completely crashed. I

went from being able to operate at this really high level, to feeling like I couldn't drive somewhere.

It was like, everything in my body started to ache. I just felt terrible. And I eventually realized, like,

oh, well, I had been operating on adrenaline, I hadn't been operating from a place of like just

being energized by myself. And by life. And by what I was doing, I was just operating based on

stress. And so my body was in a really bad state. And the other thing that happened, and so that,

that surprised me, quite frankly, because I had really tried to take very good care of myself. I knew

I was working. I knew I had a high pressure job, but I still tried to take care of myself. But the thing

that surprised me more that happened after I left that job was you would think that having done

everything that I did, having the resume that I had haven't gone to Duke having worked for this

firm, even though I decided to leave that I would still have some sense of value, some sense of

worthiness, like okay, I'm not doing this now, but I did it. But what ended up happening was it was

like every shred of kind of self worth or value that I had it just like it When I with it, I felt

completely an utterly worthless, I felt completely and utterly like, just like I had no value. And it

was such a terrible feeling. And I think I've felt that actually, I've felt that way for a long time. But

it's like, I didn't fully realize it because I kept kind of, I just kept going, Well, I'm gonna do this thing,

and I'm gonna do this thing, and I'm gonna do this thing. And then I did it, and then I had it. And

so when those two things happened with my health, and with how I felt about myself, what I did

was I made the decision I'm going to give, every single thing I have, I'm going to make it my full

time job, I'm going to give all my resources all my time and all my energy to finding answers to

finding how can I heal my body? And to finding, you know, can we have a different experience of

this life? Is there a different experience for us to have? And so that's what I did. So you

really focus, here's the pivot here, I wanted to get with your camera, you started to pivot away

from external expectations to a physical health and a mental spiritual health focus in that

transition was a tough one, it may even meant that you had to go through, you know, some real

physical and emotional manifestations of that. So let's go here, where's what I want? What I want

to kind of focus in zero in with you now, when you'd made that decision to do that, what were

some of the things that you actually did? What did you do? I'm, I'm after actions. That's what I

want to do to help my audience. What are some actions that you took?

So what I did was I researched and I experimented. So I looked for, okay, you know, what are the

different things out there that can improve my health and so I tried different physical things like

saunas and floats and colonics and cleanses. I trained in a number of different modalities, like I

became a Reiki Master, I became a Theta Healing practitioner, I trained in something called

they say they work, and I really want to learn, I want to go in depth with them. That's why I didn't

Splunk. NASS like, I went into kind of these different modalities to see like, okay, you know, why do

just, I really, like I got certified in them. I went and saw a number of different healers. So, and I

really didn't, I didn't limit. So when it came to me trying these things, what I was after was results.

So even if something seemed kind of different, or out there, I would try it. If I thought it potentially

could give me a result. And so, you know, whether it was like a shaman and kind of dancing

around me with, you know, instruments, whatever it was, like, I really, I was like, I want a result.

That's what I'm after. And eventually,

you still took it away, helped me out and see if I'm right or wrong here. Because it could take a

little bit of your legal training some of that process that a legal mind has to have, and you played

it to this problem in your life, that you were after results. You weren't just after the experience only.

You're after results.

Yeah. 100%. And I used, you know, part of a large part of what I did as an attorney was I

researched and I looked for, you know, solutions to problems for our clients. Like that's what I did.

And so I took those trainings, I took the skills, and I did the same thing. And I was really meticulous

with what I did. So even though like I did try a lot of things, I was meticulous and how I chose

them. And I didn't just jump around like I wouldn't like I didn't just train in level one Reiki, like I

became a Reiki Master like I really,

you mentioned, you were certified and or whatever the process was in several of these modes.

Yeah, that correct?

Absolutely. And then I would like I worked in a Reiki clinic for a while. And I, I taught myself how to

do things like create flower remedies, which is like it's an interesting thing. I taught myself how to

do human design reading. So like some things I would go train some things I would teach myself

and I was trying everything on myself. Sometimes it would be I try it on other people. But again, I

was very focused on I, you know, I wanted a tangible result. Like I wanted to feel different about

myself, I want my body to feel different. I wanted it to be healthy. So So yeah, so that's what I did.

Well, how did you arrive then?

It's, I know that a big part of what you're about is yoga, a particular form of yoga. And then you

also are an optimal life coach. How did you kind of navigate through all these different at your

experimentation stage, if you will, to arrive to kind of a place it worked for you?

Yeah, so what happened was after a year and a half of doing this, so a year and a half of making

this my full time job and when I say I made it my full time job like I made it my full time job. I

wasn't messing around. This is what I was doing. So after a year and a half, I would say I was in

worse health than I wasn't, I was working. And I felt worse mentally and emotionally. And so this

was after trying all of these different things. And basically, in my experience them, they didn't work

for me. And it was one of the darkest moments of my life. So to think that, like, I had dark

moments when I was working, that was really nothing compared to this, because this, this was

kind of the moment where I was like, Oh, my goodness, what I'm searching for doesn't exist. And

so like, when I was working, there was always this little part of me that was like, you know, it exists.

You just haven't truly tried to find it yet. You know, I mean, but now after doing all of this, it had to

be a dark place. It was a dark place. Yeah. And so, so yeah, so that's where I was after a year and

a half.

So you still kept searching. And then you had to go to sounds to be even had to go to a deeper

place even beyond where you're at. Is that fair?

I think that's fair. And so when I kind of hit that point, it was like, Okay, I'm not that far removed

from practicing law, I can go back, like, I can go back and practice law again. But there was this

part of me that was just like, keep going. So one day I, I put on a kundalini yoga class, I did not

know what Kundalini yoga was. I had done yoga for years, but I had not heard of or tried

Kundalini yoga. And so I took a kundalini yoga class, and after that class, I felt different. And so it

was like a, it was a palpable and noticeable difference. And so I kept taking Kundalini yoga

classes. And the more I took them, the better I felt, and I really committed to taking these classes.

And the more I took them, it was like, the aches and the pains in my body started to go away. And

I started to feel more energized, I started to feel more inspired. And I started to have these, like

these kind of these inklings of this worthiness and value that was internal to me, that was not

something that I was external to me that I was doing. And so

you said something to the effect of that. Kundalini Yoga has helped you tap into your superpower.

Say a little bit more about that. And help us define for those of us who just don't know, kind of

what, you know, a lot of us are familiar with yoga in one form or another, but Kundalini yoga.

Yeah, yeah. So what Kundalini Yoga is ultimately doing is it's really tapping you into you, and to

the power that you hold into the magnificence that you are into the knowing and the intelligence

that you hold. That's what Kundalini Yoga is, ultimately about. And how it does that is because

we're dynamic and complex beings. I mean, we, you know, we're in a physical body. But we're not

just our physical body. What it does is it addresses all parts of our beingness. So it addresses the

particular works on critical systems of the physical body, like the nervous system and the

glandular system, the circulatory system, the immune system. It also works on the mind to help

one control and direct their mind. It works on an emotional level. So it helps you get rid of and

release suppressed emotions and deal with current emotions. It works on an energetic level. So if

we look at like the, you know, different traditions have different ways of understanding the body.

And so when we look at like the chakra system, and kind of from an energetic level, it's it's working

on that energetic level. And it's doing this through using postures and poses, which you know,

postures and poses are pretty commonly used in yoga. It also uses a lot of different breathing

techniques. It uses sound current, so it uses from it takes from the science of sound and uses

mantras. It uses hand position. So the hands are connected to different parts of the brain. It uses

AI positions, again, which are impacting different parts of the brain. It uses meditation, and it uses

relaxation, it uses all of these things to create a result and it uses all of these things to really work

all parts of us really treating us as the dynamic and complex beings that that we are

physical, even metaphysical go are integrated here that this process here and tell me a little bit.

I'm just big, big believer that we do have to make a connection between the actions that we take

our physical part, if you will, and the aspect of healing part of a some sort of a connection with a

higher power, a spiritual plane, something of this nature, I believe, for people to have true

transformation, they have to have some form of that and to me But about that transformation for

you, you know, the search for meaningfulness had a spiritual element, you've already described it

in many ways, but go just a little bit deeper on that.

Yeah. So for me, it was it, what really it came down to was an understanding of who I was, it was

an understanding of the knowing the intelligence, the infinite creativity that I held within myself.

So it's like, we tend to see ourselves as these very limited beings, like I'm this physical body, I'm this

limited person, there's so much more to us and what is available for us to tap into and to

experience. And so you know, however, people want to kind of see it, they can either see it as like,

you know, your you can tap into infiniteness, you can tap into Infinite Intelligence and to infinite

creativity. Or it's almost like you hold that within yourself, and it's a matter of you expressing and

experiencing that. And it's like we, in many instances, we're not expressing and experiencing that,

because it's like, we're living from a false sense of who we are, we're living, we're living from these

beliefs that were like these very limited beings that come from a state of like, deficiency and lack

and powerlessness. And so it was, for me, really an understanding and a shift in, like, who am I?

What am I capable of? You know, what is actually, what am I? You know what I mean? And so,

yeah,

well, let's shift down. You know, I'm also a believer that when we make the shifts here, if we're

going to transform if we're going to go from, you know, being stuck in our adversity, whatever is

the job, you couldn't stand, you know, the, the dark places to a place now, you're obviously young

with a lot of energy in life and lighting, some great things to offer other people. But some of that

has to do with how you change your life in terms of your habits, your your mental approaches to

things you mentioned, in the legal profession, you had a very intense, adrenaline filled lifestyle.

And I'm sure that it had all kinds of, you know, manifestations of that, tell us a little bit right now

about some of the habits or disciplines or practices that you have now, especially in contrast to

what you had before.

Yeah. So. So my, my focus is on me, understanding the truth of who I am me, knowing me, me

expressing me and me understanding truth, generally, generally, like, that is my absolute priority.

That is what I care about more than anything. And so, really, the discipline for me is like, no matter

what situation arises, I'm not so caught up. Like, it's like, I have to kind of take a step back, like, I

don't get caught up in the actual situation. The question for me is always like, am I expressing the

truth of who I am? And the situation? What is the truth of this situation? And so it's like, I've made

this decision. This is the priority for me, in my life. And so what that's then done to is, it's, it has

changed, you know, my physical habits, certainly, it's changed my priorities. But it really is this kind

of kind of whole kind of life approach. In a sense, it's not that I think, like, Oh, I just like, you know,

for me, it's meditating 10 minutes a day, like, that's my discipline, you know, I mean, which I do

believe in meditation, I think is very helpful. And I do think it's a good thing to commit to that. But

it's more of a commitment to me functioning as So, as me. And so one of the things that I learned

is that we're all unique beings, we each have our own unique set of gifts and talents. And we each

have ways in which we're structured to thrive. And so I'm very like, cognizant of and very

committed to being me, I'm very committed to understanding the I'm very committed to living in

ways in which I know that I thrive, I'm very committed to living in ways where I'm expressing my

gifts and my talents. And so it's kind of a more overarching kind of way of life for me, but at the

same time, I do commit to certain practices like Kundalini Yoga, I do commit to certain, you know,

ways of eating, and just generally ways of of living my life.

And you've also have committed to serve others in this process. You committed to be a teacher,

and a coach, a optimization coach, you have framed your, what you do, and a teacher of

Kundalini. Yoga. So tell us what about what, you know, as you've now chosen to offer this to

others? What does that mean? How does that manifest itself? If folks want to go to your website,

for instance, or find out more about you in terms of what you have to offer into their life? What

are they? What are they going to find that you can offer to them?

Yeah, so when I was working at the firm, to me, you know, I'm with these people who are so

intelligent, so driven, so committed, so sincere and what they were doing. And to me, it was such a

travesty that it was like, not all of them. But a number of them, including myself, it's like, we

weren't really living these lives, it just lit us that excited us that we were passionate about, we

weren't energized by life. And to me, that's such a travesty. And I know that didn't just occur in my

job. I know this is occurring in a lot of people. And, and here's the truth, like we're not here just to

survive, we're not here just to have this mediocre existence, we can have so much more I mean, we

can have a life where we revel in the magnificence of this experience, where we revel in our own

creativity, where we are in love with who we are, when we're in love with others, and when we're

expressing ourselves in our creativity. And so what I have done is committed myself to showing

people they can have such a different experience. And it doesn't mean to I just want to make

clear, it doesn't mean they have to leave their job, that was the path. For me, that's not the path

for everybody. And so what I offer to people is, you know, all these things that I tried that really

didn't move the dial, for me, that really didn't work. It was really through that experience, once I

really started to get a lot of clarity. After I was doing Kundalini Yoga, I really started to realize,

okay, these things don't work, what does like what does really work. And so I, I put together

programs that I developed, and I wrote, where I really set forth in a efficient and an effective way,

here are the things that work like, here are the things that can really show you and give you the

experience of and give you the result of having a very different experience of your life. And I have

two programs, one is called the foundation, and one is called thoughts. And in those programs,

there's a number of things in those programs, because what I did is I took the things that really

worked, and I put them all together in one program, again, so we get efficiency, effectiveness, and

we and people really get a result. Because I understood to, like I understand what it means to be

really busy. I know what that life is like. So I structured my program so that even if I was a

practicing attorney, I could take this program and benefit from it without it really impacting, you

know, with me being able to do it, given that kind of that lifestyle. So

you've got some courses here and things in your Cocina in your yoga teaching, all part of what

you're about. But you also have emphasized several times that our conversation care results. So

let's talk now about results that people have when they connect up with you. Tell me about a

person or situation that you've connected up with that you've had some influence on that you've

seen some results with them? And then how that made you feel. Tell us about kind of a testimonial here.

Yeah. So it's really it's, you know, I have to say, and you talk about being fulfilled, It's so fulfilling

for me to see other people get results. And so one of the things that I'm you know, that I teach is

like, what you're ultimately focusing on is, is this is internal. That's what we're really focusing on

here. It's like you changing, are you coming to understand who you are and how you function. And

it's so fascinating that once I see people do that really understand, like, This is who I am, and this

is how I function. It's like, their life, like they'll still be going to the same job at the like first, like

when we you know, they'll still be going to the same job, they might still have the same

circumstances in their life. But they feel totally different. They go from this place of feeling

hopeless, they go from this place of feeling like they're a failure, even though like they're on paper,

they're not people can still feel as if they're a failure. They go from a place of feeling they cannot

have what it is that they really want. And in fact, they shouldn't even let themselves really think

about what it is that they really want. Because that's not possible for them. There's such a shift

and that they go they move into the state of I feel totally different about myself. I feel different

about life. And now I actually believe like I can Have the things that I really want. And I really am

letting myself go there. And they start to step into their power, they start to step into their gifts

and into their talents. And then what happens is that just can continue for them. Because it's like,

you can just keep going with that, because it's like you're not forcing these outside circumstances

to change.

So you've seen this happen and other folks, you've seen it happen in yourself. And you want to

spread that good news to others. So. So Carrie, how can people find you it's also where people

can find you if they want to get connected with you and learn more about what you're about?

How can people get connected with critical guitar.

So the best way to connect with me is on my website, www dot Khaira. Nicole bataar.com. And I

do offer free discovery calls so people can talk to me and we can find out if what I'm offering is

really the best fit for them. And on there, you can also sign up for a live stream Kundalini yoga

classes twice a week, they can sign up for those. And if they have any other questions, that's really

just a good way to connect with me because all my contact information is on there.

We will put all that on our website, Dr. Brad miller.com. And it's been fascinating to have you with

us today. Kara. She is an optimization coach and Kundalini yoga teacher and has a fascinating

story to tell and can be helpful to you, particularly if you find yourself in somewhat similar

circumstances. She's got a story to tell. So we thank Cara, Nicole Bataar for being our guest today

on the beyond adversity podcast.